Let’s Talk about It with Kat Kerr

Let’s Talk About It 


The video below will introduce you to Kat Kerr. It’s from the Let’s Talk About It TV show. Kat is a lady who has had multiple trips to heaven.

Duties of children; duties of parents

Children absorb more from their parents’ actions that their parents’ words. Notice Kat’s interesting take on train a child on the way he should go.

Watch this explained more fully in the short video below.

Watch the entire Let’s Talk About It interview in the video below.

Courts of Heaven vs. Praying in the Battlefield

Reaching our destiny via the courts of heaven

There are books in Heaven revealing destinies — destinies of people all the way to destinies of nations. Often it requires activity in the courts of heaven for a destiny to be fulfilled. We have to step into Heaven to deal with all sorts of legal issues. These are the legal issues the enemy is using to prevent us from reaching our destiny.

Learn more about the courts of Heaven in the video below.

Satan wants to take away our destiny

Psalms 139:16 talks about a time before we were born.  It says that our destiny was written in heaven.  But the devil is trying to detour us away from that destiny.

For example, think of the story in Luke 22:31 where Jesus is speaking to Simon Peter.  Jesus says that Satan has desired to have him.  “Desired” here means that Satan has demanded that Peter be put on trial.  Satan is saying that Peter is disqualified from his destiny because of things he has done.  But Christ is saying that He has gone to court for Peter and Peter will get what was destined for him.

This is explained more fully by Robert Henderson in the video below.

The greatest legal transaction in history

The greatest legal transaction in history took place when Jesus died on the cross.  When Jesus said, “It is finished”, that meant that every legal mandate was now met.  After Jesus died, all people were given the legal rights we see in Isaiah 53.  Jesus took our sickness, our pains, our sins and our iniquities.  Watch the video below.

We can now have the legal right to be free of sickness, pains, sins and iniquities.  Learn how to be free of these problems.  Absorb the rest of this blog post.

Your adversary the devil

1 Peter 5:8 says, “Your adversary the devil goes about like a roaring lion seeking whom he could devour.”  “Adversary” is from the Greek word “antidikos”.  It means “one who brings a lawsuit”.  The reason some important prayers are not answered can be because the devil has a legal case against us.

Think of the parable of the unjust judge.  The widow did not yell and scream at the judge.  She asked the judge for a verdict that would render her adversary unable to legally operate against her.

This concept is discussed in the video below.

Reversing His Son’s Depression

Robert Henderson’s son had been in a deep depression for two years. He prayed for his son multiple times. That had no effect.

Then the Lord told him to take his son to the Courts of Heaven. He did. There he:

  • Repented for any fault his son had as a father & a husband. He repented for his son believing the lie of the enemy & for anything else he could think of.
  • Then he repented for any negative thing he had said to his wife about the boy.
  • He prophesied his son’s destiny.
  • He rebuked the spirit of depression.

The whole thing took about 15 minutes. His son’s depression lifted. What he could not do in two years of prayer he did in 15 minutes in the Courts of Heaven.

 

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Watch the complete interview between Sid Roth and Robert Henderson.

 

More teaching on the courts of heaven

One reason Christians lose

Satan is the accuser of the brethren. What if he accuses you in the courts of heaven & you do not show up? You may just lose because you did not defend yourself.

Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. Luke 31-32a

Meditate on the above passage. Q. Where did satan ask to sift Peter like wheat? A. In the Courts of Heaven.

But, according to Ian Clayton, Jesus went up to the Courts of Heaven and petitioned on behalf of Peter.

Someone has to defend us against the accuser of the brethren.

One p.174 Ian Clayton says: Too many intercessors have been caught  and trapped on the earth trying to eventually go to Heaven instead of realizing that they could go to Heaven immediately, do transactions and win!

On p.177 Ian Clayton says: The courtroom of God is also where angels are released on assignment to see it come to pass on earth. It is done in the courtroom, not on the earth. As intercessors we spend so much time praying down here and it has been good, but we have not always had the victory. We have to learn another way.

Links

Session 1
Valuable notes on the courts of heaven
The Courts of Heaven, XP Media
Notes from Robert Henderson
The Courts of Heaven, podcast with Justin Paul Abraham
6 Types of Courts in the Courts of Heaven
Sample prayers in the Courts of Heaven
Lawyer compares legal system with Courts of Heaven
Heaven’s Court of Redemption

Language of the Courts of Heaven

Justice in the Courts of Heaven is measured against the Word of God. Satan even uses scripture to accuse the brethren. He tells God how people acted contrary to the Word of God.

Before going into the Courts, it may be a good idea to decide upon some of the scripture you want to use. Meditate upon them.

More in The Language of the Court section in this website.

 

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1. <Realms of the Kingdom Vol. 1, Ian Clayton, p.171

Trading Floors & Establishing a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth

What are the trading floors?

trading floorsThis blog post is a summary of the book, The Trading Floors of Heaven.

There are two trading floors. One is of God and the other is of satan. They are both in the realm of the spirit.

Satan’s trading floor is designed to build satan’s kingdom on earth. God’s trading floor is designed to make a person’s life more abundant.

A trading floor is a place in the spirit realm where people give some something and get something in return. It may be positive or negative.

For instance, when someone sins, they are trading on satan’s trading floor. They are getting temporary pleasure. In return, a potential blessing was withheld. That would help build satan’s kingdom. Sounds like a foolish trade to me.

When someone is truly worshiping, they are giving a blessing to God. In exchange, they receive God’s blessing. They have just traded on God’s trading floor.

How do we trade with satan?

The first trade recorded in the Bible was when satan convinced Eve to eat the fruit in exchange for having the ability to know good & evil. Adam & Eve traded their dominion over the earth for their supposed ability to be like God. Their sin gave satan legal right to have dominion over the earth.

Every time you sin, you are trading with satan’s kingdom. You lose blessings and opportunities that would have been available to you.

So, satan’s trading floor takes life away from you and God’s trading floor releases life to you.

Trading floors & 2 kingdoms

After Adam & Eve sinned, satan’s kingdom was established. So, Earth now had two kingdoms — Kingdom of God & kingdom of satan.

When Jesus came to earth, he traded his divinity for an earthly body. I.e., he entered God’s trading floor. Later he traded his life for the blessed life that mankind can live in the Kingdom of God.

We now have an opportunity to trade on God’s trading floor & get back what satan got from us in his trading floor.

Intentional & unintentional trades

Whether intentional or unintentional, a trade will have the same consequences. Even a trade your ancestors made can affect you negatively because the results of the trade can be in your DNA.

Secular scientists know about the effects of experiences creating changes in a person’s DNA.

Scientists in Emory University gave mice a mild shock. At the same time they smelled a particular fragrance. Consequently, they developed a fear of that fragrance.

Then the researchers milked the sperm & sent it across campus. There female mice that had never been around the males were impregnated  with the sperm.

Their offspring & grandchildren were all afraid of the same fragrance.

Read more about this experiment in a National Geographic article.

Blood covenants of your ancestors

Let us suppose that your ancestors from 20 generations killed their firstborn in a ritual to their gods. Perhaps they did it in exchange for victory in a war.

In the realm of spirit, this would have been a legal agreement.

If you are a firstborn child, you could be experiencing consequences of the ritual from 20 generations ago. Perhaps all sorts of things in your life are going wrong in a way that seems unreasonable. The devil may be laying claim to your life because of that legal trade so many  centuries ago.

Gambling

When someone is gambling, they are trading their money for the chance to make good money from the god of chance. God should be our provider. When we gamble, we trade this hope in God for hope in a demon.

This hope in a demon can pass on to future generations. A gambler’s great-grandchildren can end up hoping for financial blessings from sources that have nothing to do with God’s blessing.

Reversing trades with the god of chance

To reverse the effects of the trades, start by repenting. Below is a sample prayer.

Father, I repent on behalf of anyone in my bloodline who traded with the god of chance. I repent for agreeing to such a trade. I call this trade sin. We sinned against you God. 

Lord, have mercy on us. Forgive us for having faith in another god and not in you. We repent and walk away from this way of unbelief. We give back anything we have that we have received from the god of chance including his false hope. We trust & believe You will provide for our needs according to Your riches in Glory.

After you have completed your repentance, you can go into the Courts of Heaven and request a decree such as the one below.

Father, I step into the Courts of Heaven. I request that You issue a decree that you annul any contract that exists between the god of chance and me & my bloodline. Father, I ask that you remove any counterfeit hope that is anchored in my heart and soul. I do not want to be tethered to any god but You. I reject any false hope, wish or chance. I say today that my trust is in my Lord Jesus Christ and no one else.  

In addition to this prayer, you might want to lay claim to anything you believe was stolen from you by the god of chance.

 

Buy The Trading Floors of Heaven book online.

Watch The Trading Floors of Heaven YouTube video below.

Childhood Trauma and Reversing Its Effects

Rewiring the Brain

axons and neurons

This article is about rewiring the brain to reverse damage caused by childhood trauma.

The image above is a picture of axons moving their positions in the brain. A major university did brain scans on some of Dr. Hegstrom’s clients.

Among them were violent criminals who had served their time in prison. After 26 weeks within Dr. Hegstrom’s program, their brains look much different. After a year on the program, the brain shows more rewiring than at 26 weeks.

In some areas judges have been ordering prisoners to take Dr. Hegstrom’s Life Skills Program. Usually 75 – 85% of parolees can be expected to commit crimes again and return to prison.

Eight judges were asked how many of the parolees they had ordered to take the Life Skills Program returned to prison. They said that of all of the people they had ordered to take the course in the past five years, none had returned to prison.

Their brains had been rewired.

Scars remain after forgiveness

A teacher in Newfoundland was teaching her class about bullying and gave them the following exercise to perform.

She had the children take out a piece of paper and told them to crumple it up, stomp on it and really mess it up but do not rip it. Then she had them unfold the paper, smooth it out and look at how scarred and dirty it was. She then told them to tell it they’re sorry.

Now, even though they said they were sorry and tried to fix the paper, she pointed out all the scars they left behind. And that those scars will never go away no matter how hard they tried to fix it.

That is what happens when a child bullies another child. They may say they’re sorry, but the scars are there forever. The looks on the faces of the children in the classroom told her the message hit home.

Arrested brain development

Bullying and other forms of trauma can arrest a child’s development. The trauma can cause the adrenalin-dispensing system to be in a constant state of alert waiting for fight or flight.

When the child reaches puberty, the excess adrenalin prevents three chemicals (dopamine, seratonin and norepinephrine) to be produced in sufficient quantities. These three chemical are necessary for normal development in the brain. As a result, part of a person’s personality can remain like that of a prepubescent child.

The five types of prepubescent traumas that can put the adrenalin-producing system to stay on high alert are:

  • Rejection in the original family,
  • Incest,
  • Molestation
  • Emotional abuse and
  • Physical abuse.

The late Dr. Paul Hegstrom was an expert in the field of prepubescent trauma. He said that it can lead to serious problems such as

♦  ADD,
♦  ADHD,
♦  Disrespect for authority figures,
♦  Domestic violence,
♦  Anger management issues,
♦  Inability to love,
♦  Inability to parent properly and
♦  Inability to resolve conflict.

brainThe main reason Dr. Hegstrom is an expert in the area of prepubescent trauma is because he was violently raped at the age of eight. For much of his earlier adult life he was an emotional mess. He eventually started a research project trying to find out how to make himself into a decent person. He found out how to “rewire his brain”.

 

Watch the television interview between Dr. Paul Hegstrom and Sid Roth.

Related pages

People who cannot control themselves

Domestic violence

Altering human brain cells

Emotional abuse

Dr. Hegstrom’s life skills project

How to Break Generational Curses

Generational curses for 3 or 4 generations

Graeme Walsh generational cursesGraeme Walsh shares something that many Christians don’t recognize — when several generations have sickness, divorce and even poverty running down their family line, this often is a generational curse. He urges you to close the door on generational curses AND he tells how.

The Word of God says I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation Exodus 20:5b and Our fathers sinned, and are no more; and we bear their iniquitiesLamentations 5:7 

If we sin and do not repent of it, the enemy has a legal right to come into our lives. If our ancestors back a few generations sinned and no one has repented of it, the enemy has a legal right to come into our lives.

It may seem unfair, but that is the reality of it. The Bible tells us so.

In a third of the recorded healings of Jesus, He first cast out a demon.

Deliverance and Communion 

Communion is the greatest tool for deliverance. Demons know about the blood of Jesus. They are afraid when they hear about the blood.

demon in Korea & generational cursesGraeme Walsh was a guest speaker at a church in Korea. A particular church member would demonically manifest so often that four men had been permanently assigned to restrain him when he manifested.

The demon manifested while Graeme was there. The assigned restrainers held him down and Graeme forced the man to take communion. Within ten or twenty seconds the man was delivered!

Scoliosis

 scoliosisA woman had a generation scoliosis curse. Her head was bent down so it touched her chest.

Graeme Walsh took dominion over the spirit of infirmity in the name of Jesus. The woman was instantly healed a grew two inches taller while they were watching.

Learn more about breaking generational curses.

Watch Graeme Walsh’s television interview with Sid Roth .

Listen to the radio interviews. They include a prayer to break generational curses.

My Favourite 31 Bible Verses

Daily devotions

Part of my private devotions every day includes reciting the 31 Bible verses you see below. By saying them every day for years, I have come to believe them fully.

They are part of my thinking processes as my day goes by. The result is that every day I am full of love, joy, peace and faith.

See our mnemonic device page about tricks on how to memorize Bible verses.

BibleMediate on the Word of the Lord day and night so that you will be careful to do what is written. Then you will be prosperous and successful.    Joshua 1:8 (Paraphrased)

BibleDo not be afraid. The battle is not yours, but God’s.    II Chronicles 20:15b

 

BibleDelight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart.    Psalms 37:4

BibleI have hidden Your Word in my heart so that I might not sin against You.    Psalms 119:11

BibleTrust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.    Proverbs 3:5,6

BibleThose who wait on the Lord will renew their strength. They will rise with wings as eagles, they will run and not be weary, they will walk and not faint.    Isaiah 40:31

BibleYou will seek the Lord and find Him when you seek Him with all of your heart.    Jeremiah 29:13

BibleBring your whole tithe to the storehouse. Test me in this and see if I won’t open up the floodgates of heaven with so much blessing that you cannot contain it.    Malachi 3:10

BibleMan does not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.    Matthew 4:4

BibleLet your light shine before men so that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven.    Matthew 5:16

BibleSeek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you.    Matthew 6:33

BibleNot everyone who says, “Lord, Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.    Matthew 7:21

BibleIf anyone hears the message of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one will come and snatch away what was sown in his heart.    Matthew 13:19a

BibleGo into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Those who believe and are baptised will be saved. Those who do not believe will be condemned.    Mark 16:15,16

BibleThe Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost.    Luke 19:10

 

BibleTo all who received Him, to all who believed in His name, He gave the right to be called the children of God.    John 1:12

BibleUnless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of heaven.    John 3:3

 

BibleFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.    John 3:16

BibleI am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.    John 14:6

BibleIf you love Me, you will do what I command.    John 14:15

 

BibleSalvation is found in no one else [but Jesus Christ]. There is no other name under heaven by which you must be saved.    Acts 4:12

BibleFor all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.    Romans 3:23

 

BibleThe wages of sin is death. But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.    Romans 6:23

BibleIf you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.    Romans 10:9

BibleThe fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.       Galatians 5:22

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We are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works that God prepared in advance for us to do.    Ephesians 2:10

BibleOur battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers…and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.    Ephesians 6:12

BibleHe who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.    Philippians 1:6

BibleThe Lord rewards those who diligently seek Him.    Hebrews 11:6b

 

BibleDraw near to the Lord and He will draw near to you.    James 4:8

 

BibleIf you confess your sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.    I John 1:9

BibleHere I am, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone years My voice and invites Me in, I will come in and sup with him and he with Me.    Revelations 3:20

More Spiritual Food

The verses below are not part of my daily devotions. But, I use them often and they have really changed my life.

BibleWhatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.    Philippians 4:8

BibleAll things work together for good, for those who love God, for those who are called according to His purpose.    Romans 8:28

BibleHusbands, treat your wives with courtesy and respect so that your prayers will not go unanswered.    I Peter 3:7

Lastly, this is what keeps our marriage super strong: My wife and I read four pages of the Old Testament and  a chapter from the New Testament out loud almost every day. Then we pray out loud together.

Alcoholic Father & Forgiveness

 

alcoholicAs a child, A.J.Jones had a terrible time living with her alcoholic father. Her mother even installed a lock inside her closet so that she could hide from his violence. She grew up hating her father.

alcoholicHer father had created such a terrible life for her that she decided to commit suicide. As she was about to swallow a handful of pills, she heard the audible voice of God saying that he loved her.

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In a conversation with AJ’s sister, her dad asked her how he could get AJ to accept him. She replied that he would have to quit drinking. So, he quit cold turkey.

His body could not handle the sudden change. One day while he happened to be at the top of a very long (191 steps) flight of steps he had a seizure and tumbled all the way to the bottom.

alcoholicFrom his hospital bed (which the doctor assumed would be his death bed) the dad asked AJ for one more chance. She reluctantly and rudely said she would.

alcoholicA.J. had supernatural experiences that has helped her erase her past hurts and live a life of living in God’s love.

 

 

 

alcoholic alcoholicClick on the image to the left to watch a TV interview between A.J. Jones & Sid Roth.

Click on image to the right to hear radio interviews between A.J. Jones & Sid Roth.

 

Lance Wallnau Talks about Donald Trump

A Trump victory published before election

Lance Wallnau talks about Donald TrumpLance Wallnau predicted a Donald Trump victory. The USA Today headline: Meet the evangelical who prophesied a Trump win!  Dr. Wallnau prophesied that Trump would be like Cyrus in Isaiah 45. He would do things for America that no one else could possibly do.

BEFORE the election Dr. Wallnau wrote a best-selling book entitled Trump: God’s Chaos Candidate. It predicted a Donald Trump victory.

A remnant makes the difference

0.008% of the votes showed up in 5 swing states that gave Donald Trump the Electoral College. The 0.008% of the was a remnant of Christians who made the difference. It was because of 0.008% of the voters that Donald Trump was elected president.

Moral of the story: A razor thin remnant of Christians can make all the difference in the world.

Praying in tongues & two trips to Trump Tower

Twice Lance Wallnau was invited to Trump Tower to meet with Donald Trump and others. He was feeling uncomfortable and said that he did not want to get involved with politics.

The Lord told him that He was only answering his prayers. After Lance Wallnau questioned that, the Lord said that every time Dr. Wallnau prayed in tongues, he was praying that he could help solve the nation’s problems.

Donald Trump & the Leviathan spirit

There is a world-ruling, word-twisting, mind control spirit operating within the Trump presidency. It is called the Leviathan spirit.

King David said: All day long they twist my words; all their schemes are for my ruin. Psalms 56:5.  I.e., King David had political enemies who would distort what he said to change the perceived meaning. That would be a Leviathan spirit.

The Leviathan spirit twists words to create division between:

  • Husbands & wives,
  • Blacks & whites,
  • Heterosexuals & homosexuals,
  • Rich & poor,
  • Men & women,
  • Young & old,
  • Etc.

Listen to the mainstream media and look at how often they distort President Trump’s words & actions way out of proportion.

Watch the video below to learn much more about the Leviathan spirit.

 

Watch the complete television interview between Lance Wallnau & Sid Roth.

People Who Cannot Control Their Behaviour

Anti-social behaviour

control their behaviourSome people just cannot control their behaviour. Perhaps they are addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol.  They may have any of a number of different anti-social  behaviours. 75 – 85% of prisoners who are let out on parole will reoffend. They often simply cannot control themselves. They are victims of arrested brain development.

Before Dr. Paul Hegstrom was healed, he used to beat his wife. He hated himself for doing that. He kept promising himself that he would never do it again.

He even spent $30,000 on psychologists’ fees. They could not help him. He still could not control himself. He and the parolees who reoffend are the victims of arrested brain development.

Rewired his brain

control their behaviourAfter much study he finally found out how to “rewire” his brain.  The process took three years. He no longer has any trouble with wife beating.

He and his former wife got remarried. After 23 years in the new marriage, there has never been a single case of domestic violence.

Enabling parolees to control their behaviour

control their behaviourDr. Hegstrom and his team of psychological researchers have worked with parolees. They worked with several groups of ex-cons in the state of Georgia. Instead of 75 – 85% of them reoffending, 2 – 6% of them reoffended.

They worked with over 500 parolees in the state of Texas. In all 500 cases, the symptoms of their arrested brain development was reversed. After five years into the project, NONE of them had reoffended.

Why People Cannot Control Themselves

Paul had been raped by a man at age eight. That had been the main cause of his arrested brain development.

Some types of childhood traumas cause the body’s adrenalin-producing system to be on high alert. As a result, three different chemicals (dopamine, seratonin and norepinephrine) cannot be produced in sufficient quantities at the onset of puberty. The extra adrenalin prevents that from happening. Consequently, the brain does not fully develop and, in Paul’s case, part of him remained like a nine-year-old boy.

The five types of childhood traumas that can cause the adrenalin-producing system to stay on high alert are:

♦ Rejection in the original family,
♦ Incest,
♦ Molestation
♦ Emotional abuse and
♦ Physical abuse.

Related posts

The information on this post came from an episode of It’s Supernatural.  Watch the entire TV interview between Sid Roth & Dr. Paul Hegstrom.

Listen to 5 radio interviews between Sid Roth & Dr. Paul Hegstrom.

In the event that you are studying Dr. Hegstrom’s work, it may be useful to watch the video below. To help you understand the rewiring of the brain, it helps to understand the workings of the dendrites, axons, brain cell bodies and the synapses.

This Is His Journey from Vile Sinner to Special Saint

Abusive, alcoholic father

sinnerRon Reagan’s folks did not know how to build strong children. He  had a physically abusive, alcoholic father. As a result, he left home at age 12,  never voluntarily went back and became a severe sinner.

He went into the world as a boy filled with hate & anger.

Learn more in the very short video below.

Hate, rage, crime, alcohol, drugs, destruction

Ron Reagan’s internal sinner state of hate & rage led to a life of crime. This worked hand-in-hand with alcohol & drug addiction.

It eventually led him to a severe altercation. The fight was so bad that much blood drained out of his body & he saw hell.

Watch the video below to learn more.

Chaos in car & emergency room

After the altercation, a man drove Ron to a hospital. The floor boards were full of blood.

In the hospital the emergency room personnel thought that they’d we unable to save him.

Learn more from the video below.

Trip to second hospital & to hell

Personnel in the hospital sent Ron to a second hospital in the ambulance. At one point it seemed to him like the ambulance exploded.

He felt his spirit leave has body. Then he looked down and saw what looked like an active volcano.

Watch the video.

What hell was like for severe sinner friends

What looked like an active volcano actually was hell. Down there he saw criminals he had known.

Their spirit bodies were being burned but they continued to live in agony. The smell was terrible. The loneliness was terrible.

They yelled out, “Ronnie, don’t come here. There’s no escape; there’s no way out.”

Watch the video.

Happy ending

There is a happy ending to this story. It’s a very happy ending. To hear it, you’ll have to listen to Ron Reagan’s discussion with Sid Roth.

sinnerThis episode of It’s Supernatural first aired in 1996. Listen to the entire interview between Ron Reagan & Sid Roth.

 

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